I saw this clip on YouTube tonight & thought it was pretty interesting to say the least. While watching I was thinking about how the interviewer was all robotic & artificial she looking. If she was interviewing me like that, I think I would have slapped her & told to stop looking so damn crazy.
Then I tripped when the author said that “perhaps” Thomas Jefferson sired children by slaves. I was like bitch please, you & everybody else knows damn well that he was taking what he wanted from his hot “seductress” property; after all they “wanted” to fuck Massa anyway (not).
Lastly, I started thinking about the female in the book having that immaculate Black baby. I know this book is a work of fiction but we are all to familiar with real life incidents when pretty wifey goes looking for some Black dick to satisfy her “primal urges”.
Actually my last thought made me think about that movie “Far From Heaven” where Julianne Moore tried to get her pussy sugar walls busted by Dennis Haysbert. If you have not seen this flick, you should check it out because it is really good & the story is off the hook.
So anyway, what do you think about this; is it genetically possible, could the woman have some secret Black family that passed & she never knew or did she did she give a piece to Ray Ray?
PS: What are African American features? Are African American features any different from other Africans on the continent or in the Diaspora? This is another reason why I hate the term African American?
Sugar / May 11, 2007
First of all, Delinsky is biting off of Lalita Tademy and her Cane River story and this shit might be possible, but that ain’t what happened. The sneaky ho got with a black dude, hands down! Put your damn hands down! lol
brunsli / May 11, 2007
Oh my. It was all I could do to watch the end of this nonsense without seriously wondering why you posted this interview. (At the end, I still didn’t know. Was it to annoy me?) I don’t particularly care for Joyce Carol Oates’ middle aged white woman’s literary interest in the color line, but at lease JCO is intelligent.
This woman’s interpretation of the “anguish” of racial secrets is ridiculous, topped only by her lack of understanding of genetics.
What I am saying? I guess I should go ponder my anguish of being both black and white … and perhaps get another Ph.D. so I can understand her single-gene and four-race approach to biology.
Cluizel / May 11, 2007
Hmmm…that will not be on my summer reading list…
Interesting.
Michelle W. / May 11, 2007
Brunsli: I am glad I’m not the only one wondering why this was posted. You’re right the annoyance factor was high.
The interviewer was sitting there and I swear I could count the number of times she blinked. There was no inflection in her voice and she didn’t change pitch at all.
As far as the author I think she should have done a better job at researching before she wrote her book. The information she provided I could have gotten from any 5th grader that goes to public school. I agree with Cluizel…this will definitely not be on my summer reading list.
Peace
IAMNOTANIGGA
aulelia / May 11, 2007
interesting but again she is just trying to make money over people’s obsession with race.
-=Topper=- / May 11, 2007
“Times of crises” and “anguish” woe the white people to have a black child.
I’m a cracker, this woman is just cracked.
Why is having a black child a crises, or the root of anguish?
I’m just gonna scratch my head for a while.
-=t=-
Anonymous / May 12, 2007
T Jeff had sex with Sally from she was 13/14 not to mention her being a slave.
I hate this stuff gloating about black babies. It’s a dark skinned white baby. My sister has a kid that looks like he is from the Justin Timnerlake tribe and people refuse to talk about him being white and his kids are still considered colored. Yet some punk is claiming black babies.
oh does anybody remember the biracial dude whose moms told him he was white and then made up stories about being raped by a black dude
there was even a girl who was adopted and the parents passed her off as asian when she was really black/white. wtf is wrong with these people.
I am most disgusted by how white people are making money off these topics yet if black people write about it or write about white characters they are shut down. props to millenia black
having a blakc child is a crisis since they know damn well that racial status can affect you and their friends and family aren’t as liberal and nonracists as they all like to pretend
Bygbaby / May 14, 2007
Sugar & Cluziel – LOL
Brunsli – I hear you & if you do get another PhD I will nominate you as being America’s most educated sister on the move.
Michelle W – The interviewer was most annoying.
Aulelia – Why are so many obsessed? Talk to me.
Topper – That shit is a crisis cuz a whole lot of explaining to occur. I remember when my 1st daughter was born & I saw her, I asked my wife why she was so white. She then said look at you, you are not the darkest thing walking around. Then she was like wait I’m mixed what the hell do you think. I wonder if she was much darker would I have asked the same question.
Sometimes I just say the wrong thing at the wrong time, I’m fucked up like that.
Anon – I never heard of these stories, very interesting though. Makes me think about all of the Black people that tried to & still pass into the world of white freedom & privilege.
Peace,
Bygbaby
daez / May 16, 2007
Both of them are making my skin crawl..(daez shivers)..what’s really sick is people will buy this book, start quoting from it, and next thing you’ll hear is it’s fact based!..ughh..(((HUGS)))
….just me…daez
Shay / May 17, 2007
I saw a white woman with a serious afro a couple of months ago. I wonder if she was ever teased or disowned for having “black folks hair” or maybe she was a very caucasian looking bi-racial woman. This book is basically saying… “oh, no…you’re not as white as you thought you were and wow, you must really hate yourself because of it!”. It’s like if this same white woman I saw in the mall with the afro was “blessed” with straight hair, her heritage might not be questioned thus allowing her to live her life racially unchallenged.
I worked with an Italian woman who got upset when an older woman in our office asked her if she was Cuban? (I was living in S. Florida at the time…there’s a large Cuban population there) She says she gets those questions all the time because of her dark curly hair and tan skin…however she wanted to make sure that we understood that she was very white…she would always point out the fact that her sister has red hair and fair skin. Why am I saying all of this? I don’t really know. I think people are just stupid and if you were white and someone told you that you weren’t, it could be devasting for you if you think you’re superior because of your alleged racial purity!
It’s like black people who always want to tell you how they have “Indian” in their family. (Politically Correct Term = Native American)As if that 1 drop of Native American blood makes them less black or something. Caribbean blacks suffer from the same disorder (they make a point to tell you how their mixed with Asian, East Indian, etc.)…I’d like to say that it’s having pride in your heritage but I think it has more to do with an individual’s sub-conscious dislike for their black DNA.
Bygbaby / May 17, 2007
Shay, your comments are on point! Especially about the dislike for their black DNA for several groups of people.
As far as your co-worker is concerned, she should probably know that African did invade Italy & set up camp there. That is why you have so many dark skinned & thick haired people in some regions, thanks to Hannibal.
Peace,
Bygbaby
The Second Sixty-Eight / May 18, 2007
I got “Indian” in my family too! Of course that that don’t change my “Blackness” In fact it is a point of pride that I have a touch of Apache, Cherokee, Irish and French mixed all up in there (apparently my ancestors weren’t racist either!). WHY am I proud? Because I would be a fool not to love all that is me.
I have a problem with that term African American too. I understand why some people would want to use it as an identifier. But my issue is that it is a bit inaccurate. Trying to self identify like the other ethnic groups do. But USUALLY those others have family in the “old country” that one of their direct relations can identify. I bet you that an Italian-American can call mama and she can tell you about a cousin or aunt somewhere in Italy! How many African-Americans can do that? Or for that matter how many African-Americans even know which country their family came from? I don’t and we went way back. AND that it identifies us with a continent instead of a country. That speaks to the whole general disconnection from where we were to where we are.
Shay / May 19, 2007
To: The Second Sixty Eight
I too have “Indian” in my family (Cherokee and Seminole to be exact)…but I think you know what I’m trying to say. I don’t think that people should deny any part of their heritage but let’s be honest; black people still have some self-hatred issues and when I still hear black women making statements like “I don’t want a nappy headed baby” then they go out and make sure they get with a straight haired man for no other purpose then to reproduce a child with “the right kind of hair” you can’t say that some of us don’t suffer from an identity crisis.
Whether you choose to identify yourself as black, white, African-American….or if you choose to acknowledge all of the ethnicities that run in your family you can’t deny that some of us just can’t accept ourselves as we are because of the negativity associated with being black.
Okay, I’m done commenting now. Sorry Bygbaby; I don’t want to overload your comment section with my opinions.
Peace
Bygbaby / May 19, 2007
A Shay & The Second Sixty-Eight, show me 3 Black Americans without “Indian” in them. LOL We or at least a lot of us claim that & none of us can claim the tribal benefits.
You both make valid points & I am happy that we have a forum to have this type of discourse.
Shay as long as I am talking up in here, feel free to give your opinion & that goes for all! I only trip when I don’t agree LOL
Peace,
Bygbaby
Lola Gets / May 23, 2007
I read once that there are hundreds of thousands of “whites” in America who have some African ancestors at some point, they just dont know it.
America has always been funny about race. We’ve got that “one drop rule” that makes ANYone with African blood in them Black. Then we’ve also got the sterotyped “Black” phenotype, and if a persons appearance somewhat deviates from that type, then they might could get a “free pass.”
People need to get over this white/black thing – within that spectrum lies a wide variety of features and physical traits, and they could mean just about anything.
And as for newborns…NO ONE looks like anything when theyre first born! Hell, I was transparent! But that changes, lol.
L